Tumultuous Thursdays:Dreams and Dreaming Series-Water as a Conduit to Other Worlds

Stock Photo: Young girl coming up from underwater in a pool.

We dream...we all know that...some of us recall them...some of us don't at least not all of the time...some are said to dream in black and white others in colour...some of us have even go as far as to dream lucidly but do any of us know for real what these dreams are made of? There are Freudian and Jungian twists on dreams and their meanings and these must be the most famous views on dreams out there...but what do you think of all of this?

On this Tumultuous Thursdays' installation of the Dreams and Dreaming series we on Meady's Musings delve into our understanding of the role of water as a conduit to other worlds while in the dream state! Hopefully we won't get into deep!

WATER



Photo of girl underwater published from this site

To us it is the conduit between this world and others...and sometimes when we dream we can gain access to these worlds...however these are very rare and powerful dreams where the dreamer can cross into a world that is not really meant to be accessed while in the flesh...as a result the dreamer can only visit this world for a fixed small window of a time.

A human member of the Meady's Musings Production House had a dream like this once...where like the girl in our opening picture she emerged from the surface of the water at the start of her dream after pushing upwards against the surface tension of the water coming up for strong pulls of air! The dreamer then stepped on 'land' which was this place with white floors, an aisle with many doors at each side. This white place was perched where for instance the sand on the beach would be have been if you emerged from an ocean onto an island! The dreamer was in no beach scene however and was in a very big hurry...rushing out the water still breathless...running up and down the aisle trying to open door after door but not being able to as much as they tried to pull it open with all their force and might! At this stage the dreamer was panicked and very disturbed...heart racing...for the dreamer knew they were in a hurry and needed to get the door open...get behind one of the doors any one before they shut close...

You see the night the dreamer had this dream someone very close to the dreamer was in a critical condition at hospital...the person did stabilise the morning the dreamer woke up but later in the morning passed on shedding the mortal coil to join the great divine!

In retrospect, the dreamer believes in that window of time she was trying to catch the soul of her loved one while it was 'travelling' to this other world...but the dreamer wasn't allowed to see or enter that world...however the dreamer was so emotionally attached...so connected to the person who was journeying and this was a mutual connection that the dreamer was able to go just that far! Right up to where a person who were to stay alive on this material plane/world and continue to human flesh embody could go! You see we believe it was the dreamer's soul that had journeyed too up to where its loved one's soul was going but for it to remain in flesh and remain alive unlike its loved one...who was dying and would eventually die...well it couldn't see...it couldn't go past the door! Based on the close connection the loved one and the dreamer had too...we believe it was a mutual desire for both the dreamer to go as far as they could go and for the loved one to have the dreamer stay with them and accompany them up to there as well!


Weeks after the loved one's death itself the dreamer again had these kind of dreams where it appeared the dreamer was accompanying the loved one up to a point...that particular dream however involved a tunnel not water...and we will talk about tunnels in our next Tumultuous Thursdays session...but it is also interesting to note on closing that it appears too that water is a conduit to a world where souls have not yet left the mortal coil...but is 'travelling' i.e. in transit out of the mortal coil to only be in soul form but not quite yet...whilst by the time you cross the door and get to tunnels well you have died...souls in tunnels have already left the mortal coil...ones on the other end of water are leaving the mortal coil but have not quite done so i.e. died yet!

Whoops! Seems we really did get in too deep! But on to more shallow waters and dreamers do dream! :)

Maniac Mondays on the Dreams and Dreaming Series: Let's Get this Slumber Party Started Right Now!

Portrait of Quan Yin as it hung in my bedroom while on vacation, Jun 07

It's time to dream on this Maniac Monday...now as followers of this blog will know on Maniac Mondays we normally discuss things that affect our day to day lives or things we are up to and as we promised in our introduction to this Dreams and Dreaming series we are going to run this series for a while (possibly a month) however it will run on each of our normal blog days-Monday, Thursday and Friday and on each of those days take on the slant of that blog day. So today we will look at Dreams and Dreaming from the Maniac Mondays point of view.

So here it is...here it is!

Of recent weeks since our return from vacation we have been in dreams galore...night after night we recall our dreams something that doesn't always happen for us...perhaps during our time in China we were blessed by the goddess Quan Yin and she has opened us up to the world of dreams and dreaming...we for sure had a lovely first meeting with her when she made us feel so at peace and protected back in 2007 while on a visit to San Francisco. And we took a picture of her back then...we didn't know her name then as we had only met her by iconography then but from the image we felt her sailing on a dragon...sailing on the sea of our dreams with magic potion in her hand guarding us from the bad dreams that we felt the dragon symbolised, and soothing and healing us into lovely restful happy dreams sleep!:)

So as we explore dreams and dreaming from our personal experiential slant today on Maniac Mondays we will share with you a dream I had just a week after returning from vacation...however I was rudely awaken in the middle of it! By my mother no doubt! LOL! But it deeply bothered me because I so so wanted to know what would happen next...I even had it up as my Facebook status as I was so ticked! And I began to get advice from others on how to deal with it! I also specifically asked friends who I had met on the Intent online community and gotten to know there that they were into lucid dreaming, their opinion...and if they also knew if I could somehow get back to the dream to find out what happened to that guy in the brown suit! Aaawww! If only! But most of them told me you can't get back to a dream by use of lucid dreaming... Aaawww! :(

But the most marvelous conversation was triggered off as a result of this dream as three of my friends from Intent(now also my friends on Facebook) and I pondered on who this guy in the brown suit could be...

You see my re-collection of the dream went something like this!

-Well when I was awoken from the dream this guy was in a brown suit...when I say suit I don't mean like a men's suit as in your normal clothing no siry! It was something like a costume...the kind someone would wear if they were going to dress up as a cartoon character say at a children's party...the kind that covers your whole head! :) However I just knew he was wearing the suit up to his neck and still getting dressed so he hadn't put on the head part as yet. But for sure he was walking around in this brown furry suit...couldn't tell what character he was going to be...but on writing this I somehow feel it could have been a dog...a big warm friendly dog! Now the guy was getting dressed but he was very nervous...very nervous...it was the key feeling I recalled...for a brief moment I had a slight worry that he was some kinda sad, sad scary psycho killer...won't even repeat the thought again here as it is so awful but I quickly ruled that out! As I more observed the guy I started to get the idea that nope this guy was indeed as nice, warm and friendly as the dog he was about to portray! His nervousness then more seemed to be about impressing a girl as he was humming a tune (don't recall the tune) and we was scrubbing himself in the face basin...looking at himself in the mirror and preening and grooming! He was moving in and out of the bedrooom area itself and the bathroom area getting dressed and I could also feel his excitement building...it was beginning to take over his nervousness and he more and more felt elated to me than anything else! For sure it more and more seemed that he was getting ready to meet a girl whom he really really liked and wanted to impress her badly...as in his estimation she was very very important indeed! And he was just like the nicest nicest fella a girl could ever meet! I also knew the girl was going to be showing up at his door so she was in a way coming to meet him not him going to meet her but they were suppose to then head off somewhere together! Thing is I was awoken before I could have the rest of the story unfold...in particular I really wanted to know where he was actually headed and more so who was this girl then???

I've not since met the guy in my dream at least not so far...but he and the dream continues to intrigue me...and as I solicited and considered advice from my Intent friends who have now become part of my Facebook network...the most fasicinating thing that came up was that one of them felt that 'a man in a brown suit' means the guy was a time traveller! From there the most marvelous daliance of our dreams and imagination unfolded...could this guy be then travelling back in time to meet this girl! :) OMG! And then it all seemed so coincidental that the friend who was suggesting the time traveller concept was also the wife of the guy whose first film ever is about a guy who travels through time to meet his beloved! And get this the actor who plays the guy in the film is Christopher Reeves - Superman! So in a sense he is a costumed actor albeit in a different role! :) So I've decided to watch the film she was talking about...'Somewhere in Time'. I will let you know how it goes as soon as I get my dvd shipped to me from Amazon and I watch it! :)


So 'What Dreams May Come' which was incidentally produced by the same guy ...as we move forward to our next blog which will be in the Tumultuous Thrusdays slot where we will talk a bit about the metaphysical thought out there on dreams and dreaming.

Tumultuous Thursdays:Life is But a Dream!

Picture taken at Suzhou sometimes called the 'Venice of China' or 'Venice of the East'. Copyright Meady's Musings Production, June 2010.

Since we here at Meady's Musings Production returned from China to our homeland we have been dreaming and dreaming and remembering our dreams in details and they have been stepping into our real life almost even! :) Perhaps it's all the row, row, row your boating that took place when we visited Suzhou in China as seen in picture above or perhaps we're just at that place in time...

But first of all I shall answer the question I left you all with last...where exactly is that muse? Well he's a bit shaken and still not himself 100% but I was able to track him down...he did indeed slip into a parallel world...in fact in that world no one ate manicous and he told me he feels as a result he found the answer to the question 'Me Eat Manicou?' LOL! But really I'm thankful to all the scientists who showed up to help me find him...with all their PhD glory! The professor from Sliders came, Doc from Back to the Future finally showed up (apparently he was in the year 2012 and not too happy as usual...he had some disturbing news for Marty!Awww!...what we would give to glimpse 1985 again!)but I was particularly impressed that he also went back in time and brought back to the future for me the original professor from Gilligan's Island! OMG!

But anyway now that my muse is at hand let me get on with the topic at hand...Dreams and Dreaming and to ponder the question is life but a dream? Like the nursery rhyme goes...

" Row, row, row your boat,
Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Life is but a dream. "

Now as I said my muse is back but still not 100% so there is much for me to say on this topic and I won't try to say much today or about all of my adventures in one go! So we're going to start another ongoing series on Meady's Musings! Yippy! It's going to be called 'Dreams and Dreaming'

So for tonight on this Tumultuous Thursday I will leave you to your dreams...whatever they may come but hopefully they are sweet! :) And I will simply give you a taste of things to come in the new series.

-Stories from my dreams

-Discussions on the ever going philosophical question...is life but a dream? For when I wake up having dreamt a butterfly...am I a woman dreaming I am a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming I'm a woman?

-Lucid dreaming and I might ask some of my friends to guest blog for this as they are more expert on it than I!

-Are dreams a connecting place? For past lives? Parallel worlds? The infinite divine? What about telepathic connections during dreams...do estranged lovers truly meet in their dreams?

So tune in folks to my dreams that is! :) And for now the series will take place under Maniac Mondays, Tumultuous Thursdays and Funtastic Fridays until all the dream stories are done! But each day will capture the topic in the normal style in which it is written so for instance on Funtastic Fridays expect cartoons on the topic and lighthearted banter, while on Maniac Mondays expect more of the dream stories and on Tumultuous Thursdays expect us to dive deep into the metaphysical and technical side of dreams and dreaming...so you might learn the most about lucid dreaming for instance on that day!

Anyway goodnight my dear readers and sweet dreams to you my friends! :)

So let's discuss our dreams! You are welcome to write in and tell us about yours too! :)

Advent Calendar:11th Day of Christmas-The Gift of Dreaming! :)

Here at Meady's Musings Production we love to dream...not just the day dreaming,inspirational kinda thing...although we love that too! But I'm talking about the kind you have when the scientists say you are in the REM part of your sleep cycle...the time when you tend to have the most memorable and vivid dreams! :)

The purple elephant and little mouse are indeed very tired after all the Christmas rush, activities and fun and indeed can do with some sleep and the dreaming always makes it just that more fun!:)So throw us a pillow and let's go!

So today on the Advent calendar we celebrate the 11th and penultimate day of Christmas with the Gift of Dreaming! :) As we also apologise for missing quite a few days of Christmas on here but as we said on Old Year's day we all had had great, big colds so could really have done with the rest and dreaming. In fact we only woke up from the dream state yesterday when Google did the lovely apple animation to honour Newton and F was equal to ma and the force of the apple hit us on our heads and we woke up for the first time into 2010...the apple fall for us was our equivalent of the ball drop in Times square! So thankfully we are here in the New Year! :)


And here is how we'll do it on each blog:

-On Meady's Musings: We will discuss some of the science and metaphysics of dreaming and perhaps where both of them cross paths! We will also recall past talks this year on Meady's Musings about the topic of dreaming!

-On UCP: In all the great religions of the world divine revelation often comes to the mortal coil during the dream state! We will recall some of our favourite such moments!:)

-On Books and Films Corner: We will recall some of our favourite movies out there that involve dreams and explore the line between that world and the waking state! :)

So grab those pillows and let the dreams begin!

THE SCIENCE AND METAPHYSICS OF DREAMING

Well there is that famous quote about the butterfly and the dream state!

"We imagine that waking-life is real and that dream-life is unreal, but there does not seem to be any evidence for this belief. Chuang Tzu, in the third century B.C., put it in an amusing way; having dreamed that he was a butterfly flitting from flower to flower, he stated that he was now wondering whether he was then a man dreaming he was a butterfly or whether he was now a butterfly dreaming he was a man." - Wei Wu Wei in Fingers Pointing Toward the Moon

And really can we ever know? Just the other day I wondered if I was in the movie Vanilla Sky and I always recall my friend from Intent-Dana Shields when I think of lucid dreaming. And I always wonder if I'm in the Matrix! I've also wondered earlier in 2009 just under one year ago...

Do the Blind See in Their Dreams?

And with 80 comments on the post...people sure did get into their dreaming! And I began then to realise just how much Dana Shields and Mr. Phillip Zeuner were into this dreaming business! :)

It still amazes me how much work people put into this lucid dreaming thing! I mean to me I prefer to dream like in the Never Ending story...I just grab my pillow and use it as a float as I soar and sink through the air pockets of my dreams or imagination! :)Or perhaps I take a ride on the Luck Dragon-Falcor that is so sweet and friendly in that movie I recall from my 1984 childhood days! :)He really was like a great big fluffy pillow! Ride wherever the winds will take me! :)